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Summary of Workshop #3 CommentsMay 26-28, 2005Comments Gathered During Workshop Sessions - Grouped By TopicGENERALEnvironmental Institute is a multi-purpose center for use by manyWill bus stops be added for access to CCP?Shuttles will be used for large eventsDoes partnership mean open to Audubon or other non-profits?There should be RV parking for golfersRate payers should get together and pay the extra money to get the projects built now. (They think that's why their rates are being raised anyway)Have a short-term surcharge (5 years or less) to spur interest and development of the site.Would like to see golf course area completed so people stay engagedHas Pierce Transit been contacted about adding a bus stop at the site?Should picnic area locations be specified?Can the trees along Grandview be thinned for a better view?Specify picnic areas so they aren't forgottenLodging prices should allow for various incomesHow are the safety issues involved with crossing the railroad being addressed?Extend Grandview Trail across the canyon with a suspension footbridge (a la Capilano in Vancouver, BC)Put condos on hillside of golf course to support tax basePreserve wildlifeCorrect guidelines re: limited access to vegetated dunesConsider controlled burns in the grass/meadow areasWWTPWhere could WWTP expand if it exceeds the land area already reserved for it?Can you build vertically at the WWTP?When does the WWTP hit its capacity (exceed land area)?SOUTH ...

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Summary of Workshop #3 Comments May 26-28, 2005 Comments Gathered During Workshop Sessions - Grouped By Topic
GENERAL Environmental Institute is a multi-purpose center for use by many Will bus stops be added for access to CCP? Shuttles will be used for large events Does partnership mean open to Audubon or other non-profits?
There should be RV parking for golfers
Rate payers should get together and pay the extra money to get the projects built now. (They think that's why their rates are being raised anyway)
Have a short-term surcharge (5 years or less) to spur interest and development of the site.
Would like to see golf course area completed so people stay engaged
Has Pierce Transit been contacted about adding a bus stop at the site?
Should picnic area locations be specified?
Can the trees along Grandview be thinned for a better view?
Specify picnic areas so they aren't forgotten
Lodging prices should allow for various incomes
How are the safety issues involved with crossing the railroad being addressed?
Extend Grandview Trail across the canyon with a suspension footbridge (a la Capilano in Vancouver, BC)
Put condos on hillside of golf course to support tax base
Preserve wildlife
Correct guidelines re: limited access to vegetated dunes
Consider controlled burns in the grass/meadow areas
WWTP Where could WWTP expand if it exceeds the land area already reserved for it? Can you build vertically at the WWTP? When does the WWTP hit its capacity (exceed land area)?
SOUTH AREA Create sculpted dunes at South Beach with dune vegetation Will there be showers at hand carry boat launch? South Area parking should be as small as possible
BOAT LAUNCH Consider going from 4 to 2 lane launch (per public comment) Remove dam as mitigation for boat launch
Summary of Workshop #3 Comments May 26-28, 2005 Comments Gathered During Workshop Sessions - Grouped By Topic
ARBORETUM Arboretum should use native plants
NORTH DOCK/DAY USE MOORAGE
Can day use moorage be expanded for more boater access? (large yachts, shuttle from bouys)
Can a portion of the day use moorage be reserved for golfers (guarantee them a spot if they come to golf?)
Make it clear that the mooring bouys are for day use only
Will the day use moorage be able to accommodate large yachts while still leaving room for the little guys?
Add a boat pump-out to the North Dock
RESTAURANTS Restaurants should be unique and special Have a range of restaurants available for different income levels Restaurants should be as unique as the Properties (no McDonalds!) Restaurants should be as special as the site
What restaurants have been contacted/are interested?
MIX OF USES Balance local and regional needs at Chambers Creek Properties Spaces need to retain flexibility When you count the acres used by the golf course, WWTP and Canyon, there aren't a lot of acres left. Mixed use areas are needed for picnic areas and other uses
Not appropriate to cram many unmet need at the Chambers Creek Properties just because you can
How are priorities established?
Summary of Workshop #3 Comments May 26-28, 2005 Comments Gathered During Workshop Sessions - Grouped By Topic
OFF-LEASH DOG PARK/AREA
Site the dog park sooner rather than later.
May need to charge for dog park use.
A dog park would be financially self-supporting.
How would the siting of a dog park impact the flow of wildlife?
How would fencing around dog park fit into the natural area?
Was the criteria of a dog park being funded operated and maintained by another entity considered by the Citizens Committee?
Consider adding additional criteria for "Maintained and operated by an outside agency"
Why not join with the group at Ft. Steilacoom to get that park finished sooner?
Why is there not more of a push to help get the Ft. Steilacoom park going?
If non-profit was in charge of the dog park, the County would not be held liable or responsible for any problems.
The reason the golf course is being built is to generate revenue.An off-leash park won't generate revenue - it will actually cost money to operate.
Don't agree that the dog park doesn't meet the criteria for site uniqueness.
North Beach will be used by people.It is a small area at high tide, there are environmental issues, dog waste.Would like a dedicated space elsewhere.
What is the environmental impact to the shoreline from an off-leash park or area? Does DOE allow it?
Look at dog facilities on North Beach and another area also.
How much beach is available at high tide in the North Beach area?
Will people have anywhere else to go at high tide is the off-leash area at the North Beach is unavailable?
If the high tide at the North Beach limits access, people will go elsewhere off-leash.
Off-leash use of beach will exclude general use of beach.
Dogs can run a long way at the North Beach.
Want another off-leash area besides the North Beach.
Consider alternative spot for off-leash at high tide.
The off-leash park doesn't need 20 acres - small portion of South Area instead.
Aren't environmental impacts of the golf course greater than the impact of dogs at the beach.
Dog park doesn't fit in South End with boat launch, arboretum, and open space.
SUN Dogs (Safe, Unleashed, and Natural) will raise funds, construct fence, maintain, and build amenities.
SUN Dogs wants a regional facility at Chambers Creek Properties.
SUN Dogs is focused on Chambers Creek
Chambers Creek Properties are a stunning Northwest site similar to Pt. Defiance - and that should be preserved.
CCP is a rare place.It shouldn't just exist to fill in with every unmet park need in the region.
How will dogs and people be controlled?
The amount of land still available is not large.Must be careful not to overplan and preserve passive and mixed use areas.
Summary of Workshop #3 Comments May 26-28, 2005 Comments Gathered During Workshop Sessions - Grouped By Topic
OFF-LEASH DOG PARK/AREA (cont):
Hard to believe there aren't 4-6 acres available for off-leash in a 900 acre site.
It's okay if the dog park doesn't have a view!
Water access for off-leash is possible (Marymoor has it).
Use underutilized existing areas for an off-leash park.
Dog park at North Meadow?
Is there room at Cirque Park for a dog park?
Why was Area 6 dropped for dog park?
Area south of the golf course in practice area could be a dog park instead.
The Bus Barn area is a more accessible site for foot traffic.
Can the dog-park be located in unused WWTP area?
You can't just drop a dog park in an area that is already pressed for parking (South End)
Would like to see a fenced dog-park at Chambers Creek.
Dog park meets needs for many people who can't provide other exercise for their dogs.
People pick up after their dogs more in an off-leash area (self-policing).
Incorporate "dog-friendly" into lodging
How are the different opinions regarding the dog park handled and resolved?